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Just Another Day (Story Time)

This post will greatly bother some people, and yet some others will greatly enjoy it.

This story is based mostly on the book of Job. And while many people socialite the book of Job with doom and gloom, there is also some surprising knowledge and technology in it.

Here is the story.

My day started off as usual. I woke up just before dawn, walked into the kitchen and started making breakfast. My wife was sleeping in and my son was next to me chatting about what he learned in school the day before.
“Dad, guess what. Did you know that clouds are really, really heavy?”
“Isn’t that something?” I answered.
“Yeah and the whole Earth is just a ball floating in space, with nothing holding it up!
“That’s good. How are you doing with history?” I asked.
“OK I guess. We learned about the flood that happened a long, long time ago.”
I laughed. “You do realize that your Great-Grandparents were on that boat, don’t you?”
“Yeah, but it still happened a long time ago.” He said.

After breakfast we both left; my son to school and me to work. On the way I came across a panhandler. Life is rough and it’s getting rougher. There are homeless people, the outcast of society, living in caves now.

I continued walking and off in the distance I could see workers moving 100 ton blocks of stone into place. I watched them do it once. They used a bladder made from the hide of a brachiosaurus which some call a behemoth to move the big stone blocks. One of the stones would have the bottom hollowed out with the bladder in the hollow. When they pump water into the bladder, the heavy stone would rise up, and could then be pushed into place.

I passed along the edge of the marsh as a short cut to work. I don’t like this area. The alligators are big and mean. But the leviathans or ankylosaurus are meaner. It’s a pretty walk, but it can also be a deadly one.

Me years ago in front of an abandoned mine in Washington State

Me years ago in front of an abandoned mine in Washington State

I finally made it to work and found everyone is very sober and quiet, not knowing what the future will bring. My job is to go down into the mine to bring out the ore. The mine is deep enough you can feel the heat coming from the center of the Earth. A smelter is near the opening of the mine to extract the copper from the ore.

Inside an abandoned mine, somewhere in the Cascade Mountains of Washington State

Inside an abandoned mine, somewhere in the Cascade Mountains of Washington State

We worked without saying much. But then there is no way we could hear each other anyway. The heavy equipment is very loud as it drills tunnels through the rock. The carts hauling the ore out added to the noise. Then it all went quiet. Our last drilling machine just broke down.
“Can we fix it?” Someone asks.
“Don’t know. We weren’t able to fix the other two. We don’t have any mechanics or welders anymore.” Someone else answers.
I had to speak up, “Why are we still working this mine anyway? None of us know how to run the smelters! For the last two weeks, our civilization has been falling apart!”

Up until two weeks ago we were arrogant. With our technology we were starting to think we could do anything. We could build anything. Some of us were beginning to think that we no longer needed God. So we started to build a mighty tower as a monument to ourselves. That was when God came to confuse our language so that we could no longer understand each other. Then the LORD scattered us all over the earth, and we stopped building the city. We stopped doing a lot of things. The place is now called Babel. Soon it will fall to ruins.

People who are skilled in making things no longer know how to get the materials. They don’t know who or how to ask; since each group now has their own language and are scattered to who knows where. Our economy is falling apart. Because of this fix we are in; we are becoming primitive. We were one language with just one government in the whole world. Now we are just a bunch of minor tribes speaking in different tongues and falling into a very primitive lifestyle. I am guessing that in time our great civilization with our great technology will become only a myth.

I hope you enjoyed my story.

Some of you maybe wondering why I choose to use a bladder to move a large stone. Years ago I had to move a safe into a small room. The safe weighted about 400 to 450 pounds. (180 to 200 kilograms) It was to be place in a corner of a room behind the door. The room was small enough that the safe could not be tipped. This means a hand truck could not be used. Also the safe could not be pushed into the corner. The safe sits on two 2X4s. I moved the safe by myself. How?

Answer: I slipped a small tire inner-tube under the safe and pumped just enough air in the tube to rise the safe off the 2X4s. Than I pushed the safe and let the air out. Because of the shape of the inner-tube, I could push it only a few inches (centimeters) at a time. It was slow, but I did it. I know of no other way to do the work.

I believe if you have a large bladder and fill it with water, you should be able to move a lot of weight.

For fun look up ancient mines and technology. In a my post What Happened? I talk more about society loosing knowledge.

One more thing, entering mines can be very dangerous. Some people never make it back out alive. Be careful.

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The Creature From Job – Supplement

If you remember from the first time I posted the article The Creature From Job I had trouble looking up Job 41:30 in Hebrew. So I asked one of our pastors Noah. This is what he said in his own words.

“The reason why you aren’t seeing Job 41:27- the end of the chapter is that English and Hebrew have the verses numbered differently. This happens often, keeping in mind that verse and chapter demarcations weren’t added till thousands of years after the original texts were written. In many cases the English verse numbers are beholden to the tradition of the King James version, which wasn’t translated from Hebrew and Greek at all, but from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate, which was done in the 400’s. Jerome was working from a different set of texts than what modern translators are working with… so in some cases there are some textual variances, or just variances in the way the verses are numbered.

In any event, in this case, all the same information is there it is just numbered differently. The English chapter 41 starts after the Hebrew Chapter 40:24… The Hebrew text continues with chapter 40 until verse 32.

So English 41;1-8 = Hebrew 40:25-32

That throws the numbers off for the rest of Job Chapter 41. The verses you are looking for are starting at Job 41:27

So
Job 41:27 (English) = 41:19 (Hebrew)
Job 41:28 (English) = 41:20 (Hebrew)
and so on…

Here’s the verse you’re after in particular:

NIV Job 41:30 His undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

You’ll find that in your Hebrew Bible at 41:22

So pretty much everywhere in Chapter 41 the numbers don’t match, so if you were looking at Hebrew and matching up the numbers you were really looking a few verses ahead.

Noah”

So I looked up in Hebrew Job 41:22 and there it was. King James Version ‘sharp pointed things’ in Hebrew is charuwts.

OT:2742 – charuwts (khaw-roots’); or charuts (khaw-roots’); passive participle of OT:2782; properly, incised or (active) incisive; hence (as noun masculine or feminine) a trench (as dug), gold (as mined), a threshing-sledge (having sharp teeth); (figuratively) determination; also eager:
KJV – decision, diligent, (fine) gold, pointed things, sharp, threshing instrument, wall.
(Biblesoft’s New Exhaustive Strong’s Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Mystery solved. I what to thank Pastor Noah Hormann at Creekside Covenant Church.

The Creature From Job

Sounds like a title to an old movie like The Creature From the Black Lagoon. The creature from Job is an interesting creature. But there are a lot common creatures that are interesting as well. I want to talk about them first.

I used to have a large friendly dog named Char. I miss that dog. But on a very hot day when Char would pant (and always on me) her breath would feel very hot. I would tell my wife that it felt like a furnace. That’s what happens when you have a large warm blooded animal that pants to keep cool. And on a cold day it would look like smoke was coming from her mouth and nostrils.

Another thing I find interesting is the way a cat’s eyes would glow at night because the way it reflects light when it’s dark. Or the way a fire-fly or lightning bug lights up at night.

Well enough of that. Let’s go check out The Creature From Job. (imagine drama type music here) This creature called a Leviathan and is found in Job 41. Some say it’s a mythical sea monster. Some say it’s a crocodile. Some say it’s a dragon or some other mythical creature. If you read Job 41 you will see that it was written in the present tense. This is an eye wittiness account.

Job 41:1-10 makes it sound like a very tough and ornery animal.

But what does this thing looks like? Job 41:12 says it has enormous strength in its limbs. Job 41:13 and Job 41:15-17 mentions armored skin. Job 41:14 its teeth. So the animal should look a little like this.

D Drawing II

Looks like an odd creature. (I never claim to be an artist.) About the limbs; horses are powerful animals, but you wouldn’t say they have powerful limbs. A bear however; does have powerful limbs. You can see the strength in their limbs, in their front claws. A turtle also has power limbs. This is why I drew this thing with short, stocky legs.

When I was researching this animal I didn’t know what the teeth looked like. I found on a website that said this didn’t have any grinding teeth but instead had ‘leaf type teeth’. Well leaves are flat and thin, so does this mean that this animal had flat and thin teeth? If so, then they could be like round knives.

As far as the armor goes, well armadillos have that. No big deal there.

I am a little disappointed that tail was never mentioned. When I first drew this I did it with a thin tail and again with a thick tail. In the drawing here I used a thick tail. You’ll see why soon.

There is one more obvious physical characteristic, and that is Job 41:30. In the New Living Translation it says, “Its belly is covered with scales as sharp as glass. It plows up the ground as it drags through the mud.” New International Version says, “Its undersides are jagged potsherds, leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.” I decided to see what the Hebrew said. However the software I’m using doesn’t have Job 41:27-34. I have no idea why. King James Version says, “Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.” So let’s put sharp pointed things on our animal.

D Drawing III-A

Hey this looks like could be an ankylosaurus!

Let’s see what else we can learn about the ankylosaurus. In verses 22 through 29 basically says nothing can hurt it. Fact number 4 of a dinosaur fact website confirm this. Verses 31 and 32 suggests that it spins time in the water. Fact number 7 of a dinosaur fact website says the ankylosaurus lives in near-tropical climate. It also says that a cold blooded creature. However verses 20 and 21 suggest that it’s warm blooded, the same way I told you about my dog earlier in this post. If you Google warm blooded dinosaurs you’ll get a lot of possibilities. Also I know for a fact that it can often get down to the 30’s in the near-tropical climate of the southern states. You can see your breath sometimes in the deep south.

Now about the fire in verses 18 and 19. Now I’m just guessing of course, but what if its saliva has glowing properties like that of a lightening bug or firefly? That might explain what could look like fire and flashes of light at night. But like I said, I’m just guessing here. And of course the eyes would glow like that of a cat.

Evolutionists claim that ankylosaurus became extinct about 65 millions years ago. Yet when I tried to find out when they believe man evolved… well I don’t believe they really have an answer. I got dates from 10,000 years for modern man to 100 million for the earliest, primitive sub-humans. Evolutionists seems to have a problem about what they claim and what the Bible says. Remember Job 41 is an eyewitness account of seeing an ankylosaurus first hand. And not only that, but mankind was not a bunch of knuckle-dragging sub-humans. Let read Job 41:6 “Will merchants try to buy it to sell it in their shops?” You can see they had a civilization. And if that weren’t enough, read Job 41:27 “Iron is nothing but straw to that creature, and bronze is like rotten wood.” Did you get that? These people worked with metal! They weren’t that primitive.

If this isn’t enough for you check out what God said in Job 40:15-17.
15 “Take a look at Behemoth,
which I made, just as I made you.
It eats grass like an ox.
16 See its powerful loins
and the muscles of its belly.
17 Its tail is as strong as a cedar.
The sinews of its thighs are knit tightly together.

There is only one creature I can think of that have a tail like a cedar, and you’ll never find one living anymore.

OK, now let’s see if we can warp your mind. (If it’s not done already) All through the ages mankind have been using animals to do hard work. In North America we have used horses to pull plows. I understand that in some countries they have used elephants to do logging. What if, just what if long ago people used dinosaurs to move very heavy things. We have already seen that man and dinosaurs lived during the same time. What if it was possible that they used dinosaurs to move very large and heavy stones? What if they used these stones to build the pyramids in Egypt? Honestly I don’t known if they did this, but it is possible.

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